Aug 23 18:43:54 *	Now talking on #Square
Aug 23 18:43:54 *	Topic for #Square is: #square SorceryNet's help & chat channel || If you need help, please ask your question and wait for a reply. || We've setup a discord server where we will post updates and take ideas, https://discord.gg/vnMrQj9JRT all welcome || website: https://sorcery.net || Network Town Hall 23rd August 7pm BST, 2pm EST, 11am PDT Agenda: https://sorcery.net/news.php#network-town-hall-2025-08-23
Aug 23 18:43:54 *	Topic for #Square set by JC (Thu Aug 21 23:06:57 2025)
Aug 23 14:10:50 <Ronald> JC and everybody else: I wish you a good Network Town Hall this evening. Unfortunately, I can not join.
Aug 23 15:29:39 *	Neo_Nemesis waves and heads off to work
Aug 23 18:39:23 <Naomi> hi naomh
Aug 23 18:40:06 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> *peeks in*
Aug 23 18:40:18 <Naomi> hi neo
Aug 23 18:40:43 <Joe> hey neo
Aug 23 18:41:47 <Naomi> hi joe
Aug 23 18:42:18 <Joe> hey naomi
Aug 23 18:43:47 <JC> evening all
Aug 23 18:44:44 <Naomh> Morning.
Aug 23 18:45:10 <Naomi> hi jac!
Aug 23 18:45:13 <Naomi> jc*
Aug 23 18:45:57 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Hi. Hi and hi
Aug 23 18:50:21 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> Hey!
Aug 23 18:50:37 <Naomi> hi chaz
Aug 23 18:50:58 <Hal_Emmerich> Hey Dragoshi, Metal, long time no see
Aug 23 18:51:03 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> Hi from the middle of the Mediterranean ocean
Aug 23 18:50:59 <JC> i feel like i'm drowining in it :P
Aug 23 18:51:20 <Metal_Man88> Hello
Aug 23 18:51:17 <JC> i'm running 5 minutes late i just found a last minute bug i need to fix
Aug 23 18:51:37 <Enker> soupsoup!
Aug 23 18:51:42 <Dragoshi> hemlo. It has been like six evers, huh.
Aug 23 18:51:47 <Naomi> hi enker soup soup
Aug 23 18:53:46 <Metal_Man88> I may be a bit slow since I am making cappuccino in the background, but at least I didn't sleep in like I often do on Saturdays, heh.
Aug 23 18:54:47 <Dragoshi> Meanwhile, I stayed up longer than I intended to and decided 'hell with it, I'm just gonna stay awake now'.
Aug 23 18:54:52 <JC> awww thanks Dragoshi <3
Aug 23 18:57:18 <Naomi> hi alexis
Aug 23 18:57:20 <Naomi> hi varis
Aug 23 18:57:22 <Alexis`> Hi Naomi
Aug 23 18:57:29 <Naomi> hi em
Aug 23 18:57:36 <em> hi naomi
Aug 23 18:57:52 <Varis> Hiya Naomi
Aug 23 18:58:34 <JC> sorry folks,i'm just saying goodnight to my kids and i'll get things started
Aug 23 18:59:02 <Joe> okies
Aug 23 18:59:06 <Naomh> No worries.
Aug 23 18:59:13 <Naomi> ok jc
Aug 23 19:00:13 <Naomi> hi stormwind
Aug 23 19:00:27 <Varis> Hiya Stormwind
Aug 23 19:00:37 <Alexis`> Hi Storm!
Aug 23 19:00:45 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Oh Chaz is on a boat!
Aug 23 19:00:53 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> *hands out life vests*
Aug 23 19:00:58 <Stormwind> waves
Aug 23 19:00:57 >global<	global Hi Everyone, the Network town hall will be starting in #square in a few minutes, everyone welcome to hear updates, share their thoughts and concerns or just listen in 
Aug 23 19:01:16 -Global-	[JC] Hi Everyone, the Network town hall will be starting in #square in a few minutes, everyone welcome to hear updates, share their thoughts and concerns or just listen in
Aug 23 19:01:16 <Medea> Good evening citizens, 
Aug 23 19:01:23 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I'm popping in and out the craziness at work hasn't started yet
Aug 23 19:01:34 <Naomi> hi medea
Aug 23 19:01:43 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> *knocks on wood*
Aug 23 19:01:44 <Naomi> hi yuka
Aug 23 19:01:51 <Naomi> good luck neo
Aug 23 19:01:52 <Joe> hey yall 
Aug 23 19:01:54 <Miyuka> hullo
Aug 23 19:02:05 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Hello hello jello it's aliiive
Aug 23 19:02:19 *	Katherine waves
Aug 23 19:02:34 <Naomi> hi katherine
Aug 23 19:02:35 <JC> ok, kids off to bed, 2 more minutes
Aug 23 19:03:10 <Naomi> hi tekkie!
Aug 23 19:03:26 <Tekkieman> Howdy.
Aug 23 19:03:41 <Naomi> hi gee
Aug 23 19:04:09 <Apple_Master> ofc now my znc decides to be a git
Aug 23 19:04:02 <JC> this is the way.
Aug 23 19:04:25 <Apple_Master> genuinely
Aug 23 19:04:33 <Naomi> hi apple
Aug 23 19:04:21 <JC> Good evening everyone, Welcome to our first Town Hall in about 15 years. 
Aug 23 19:04:43 *	Mavis stretches
Aug 23 19:04:53 <Medea> What a crowd
Aug 23 19:04:59 <Joe> woot woot
Aug 23 19:05:00 <JC> I really cannot express how happy i am to see so many old and new faces, and to see how many have joined for this, honestly thank you all for taking the time. 
Aug 23 19:05:33 <JC> All of this is being logged and will be posted to the website for those who are unable to attend, and afterwards if you have any follow up queries i invite you all to email me about them, jc@sorcery.net
Aug 23 19:07:13 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> 🙂
Aug 23 19:06:59 <JC> Ok, the first thing i want to do to kick all this off is give you a very sincere apology on behalf of chaz, Apple_Master and myself. SorceryNet was left in at the time capable hands, however over time that failed to meet the needs of the network
Aug 23 19:07:35 <Apple_Master> Also, that one 15 years agoish was when JC and I met, so I am now taking applications for my very own apple.
Aug 23 19:07:33 <JC> oh please let him find one. 
Aug 23 19:08:04 *	Joe hands Apple_Master an apple
Aug 23 19:08:17 <Mavis> What sort of Apple?
Aug 23 19:08:28 <Medea> The apple of someone's eye
Aug 23 19:08:37 <Naomi> prolly a macintosh
Aug 23 19:08:39 <Joe> granny smith =p
Aug 23 19:08:44 <Apple_Master> you must be BELOW 5 feet tall and be incredibly handsome and funny, those are the only requirements
Aug 23 19:08:57 <Mavis> heh
Aug 23 19:09:02 <em> you'd think that would be a low bar
Aug 23 19:08:47 <JC> The last few years the network declined, DNS' was never updated, things just fell apart and if it hadn't been for a select few of you posting on Reddit in May, and messaging the old facebook page which i still own we wouldn't have known the network was down
Aug 23 19:09:37 <Joe> Ahhh I am out of the running, Only got 2 of those 3 things 
Aug 23 19:09:29 <JC> on the day we found out what was happening chaz was mid-flight to america for work and i was unable to SSH in to any of the old boxes so we had a proper full on network outage that lasted for hours, it shouldn't have happened. 
Aug 23 19:10:18 <JC> it gave us 3 a kick in the arse and within a day we had bought 6 new servers 4 client and 2 hubs to make sure it didn't happen again, we also commited to being back on here more and doing what we can to repay you,the users for your time and effort over the years
Aug 23 19:11:20 <JC> So honestly, from us,we're sorry it got so bad, but thank you for not just leaving the network
Aug 23 19:11:27 *	Disconnected (Connection reset by peer)


Aug 23 19:12:25 *	Now talking on #Square
Aug 23 19:12:25 *	Topic for #Square is: #square SorceryNet's help & chat channel || If you need help, please ask your question and wait for a reply. || We've setup a discord server where we will post updates and take ideas, https://discord.gg/vnMrQj9JRT all welcome || website: https://sorcery.net || Network Town Hall 23rd August 7pm BST, 2pm EST, 11am PDT Agenda: https://sorcery.net/news.php#network-town-hall-2025-08-23
Aug 23 19:12:25 *	Topic for #Square set by JC (Thu Aug 21 23:06:57 2025)
Aug 23 19:12:47 <JC> We hadn't been told by those left running the place they were leaving 
Aug 23 19:12:56 <JC> So honestly, from us,we're sorry it got so bad, but thank you for not just leaving the network
Aug 23 19:13:18 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> The crazy thing is how humbling it is to see you guys all coming here after all of this time
Aug 23 19:13:32 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> It's really nice to see old faces and new
Aug 23 19:13:16 <JC> yeah absolutey, i'm in shock atthe moment
Aug 23 19:14:17 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I've used sorcery off and on nearly 20 years will take more than that to get me to leave
Aug 23 19:14:22 <Joe> ^
Aug 23 19:14:11 <JC> the next thing i want to do is thank chaz for coming back and for sorting the new servers and the configs and making it all work, he's truly been the backbone of the technical side for the last what 16 years ? more maybe
Aug 23 19:14:30 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> I love that
Aug 23 19:14:31 <Joe> about 10+ years for me
Aug 23 19:14:34 <Medea> It's as bad as hotel california
Aug 23 19:15:03 <Naomi> i have 30 years off and on wiht sorcery
Aug 23 19:15:03 <Metal_Man88> People told me to leave for Paltalk... then AIM... then Skype... then they tried with Discord. There was no convincing me to do such. And 3 out of 4 of those are now gone.
Aug 23 19:15:04 <Mavis> I've been on Sorcery off and on for...oh god I feel old.
Aug 23 19:15:04 <Packie> (such a lovely place)
Aug 23 19:15:48 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I'm in awe myself and happy that so many showed up. Wish I was on my IRC right now to see everyone who's here.
Aug 23 19:15:53 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> In the name list
Aug 23 19:15:55 <Naomh> It does catch up to you when you think about how long one has been in a place.
Aug 23 19:16:00 <Mavis> While Discord has its place, IRC has a unique charm.
Aug 23 19:16:00 <Hal_Emmerich> Square's at 50 Neo
Aug 23 19:16:09 <Metal_Man88> My nickname is older than some people I see, heheh...
Aug 23 19:16:10 <Apple_Master> I'm sure we can get a list saved too, that would be neat
Aug 23 19:16:19 <Malachai> I've been using IRC off and on since its creation back in the mid 90s and I'm so amazed that its still such a strong medium and I'm glad to be on a server group that cares about the future of the platform
Aug 23 19:16:10 <JC> ok now for a quick run down on whats changed. 4 new client servers 2 in EU and 2 in America, 2 new hubs one in UK and one in Canada. running newest stable Inspircd 4 and the latest anope services. we took the steps to retire ALL old servers 
Aug 23 19:16:30 <JC> i've been on irc for 29 years lol 
Aug 23 19:17:02 <Malachai> nice
Aug 23 19:16:55 <JC> and 25 of them here on Sorcery, i joined SorceryNet for the first time January 2nd 2000 
Aug 23 19:17:29 <Naomh> Easy date to remember.
Aug 23 19:17:14 <JC> yup
Aug 23 19:17:36 <Malachai> I was on DALnet till the great DDOS of the 00's
Aug 23 19:17:43 <Apple_Master> why wasnt it january 1st
Aug 23 19:17:44 <Apple_Master> slacker
Aug 23 19:17:49 <Mavis> lol
Aug 23 19:17:51 <Joe> lol
Aug 23 19:17:53 <Packie> Y2Kbug obvs
Aug 23 19:17:35 <JC> Apple_Master, because i was drunk, i am scottish :P
Aug 23 19:17:54 <Apple_Master> slack is another great chat medium btw we should move there
Aug 23 19:18:06 *	Mavis stares
Aug 23 19:17:49 <JC> ihateyou.jpg
Aug 23 19:18:14 <Joe> I use slack enough for work....nooooo thank you
Aug 23 19:18:17 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> IRC has seen off other contenders
Aug 23 19:18:19 <Apple_Master> see how you cant even send me real images
Aug 23 19:18:21 <Apple_Master> >:)
Aug 23 19:18:25 <Metal_Man88> The Slack notification noise triggers PTSD in me XD
Aug 23 19:18:29 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> Having the bridge is helpful for me when I'm on my phone 🙂
Aug 23 19:18:38 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> From the sunset bar on a ship.
Aug 23 19:18:50 <Naomi> pardon me apple but f**k slack. that's a work platform most prefer to avoid in free time
Aug 23 19:18:51 <Joe> They got IRC clients for phones now Chaz
Aug 23 19:19:02 <Apple_Master> they built OG discord on the IRC protocol for a reason :D
Aug 23 19:19:18 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Hal: wow!!
Aug 23 19:19:20 <Naomi> lol
Aug 23 19:19:45 <Dragoshi> I appreciate it, given it's allowed for stuff like bridges. Even if I haven't had much reason to use one outside of being silly and hopping between two different places at once, it's an ice feature
Aug 23 19:19:51 <Dragoshi> *a nice
Aug 23 19:20:11 <Joe> huh didn't know that one apple 
Aug 23 19:20:05 <JC> that's the next thing i want to talk about, discord and why we an irc network have a discord server, honestly so we never have a repeat of what happened in May. chaz and myself can't be on irc as much as we use to, but discord notifications are handy for emergencies 
Aug 23 19:20:26 <Apple_Master> to be fair i have never checked the veracity of that statement
Aug 23 19:20:55 <Apple_Master> even irc has misinformation now :(
Aug 23 19:21:07 <Mavis> lol
Aug 23 19:21:14 <Hal_Emmerich> One of the things that's really nice about IRC is that it's not corporate ruled. Look at Discord - it's a great chat service, but it's under pressure to monetize everything. You have to pay for longer messages (Discord Nitro), and then you get ads shown to you in the form of quests. Everything is centralized, your credentials can be stolen via session token and Discord corporate can't or won't 
Aug 23 19:21:14 <Hal_Emmerich> fix it
Aug 23 19:21:15 <Naomh> Discord also does a decent job logging stuff as well, especially for the notifications. I'll give it that.
Aug 23 19:21:19 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I hate discord but JC asked me to get it so I'm finding it helps when I'm not at the computet
Aug 23 19:21:37 <Hal_Emmerich> It has it's place, but so does IRC. And for roleplaying, IRC beats it hands down
Aug 23 19:21:23 <JC> We are working on a system to help people request bridges to help expand their channels, but it's nowhere near ready yet, when it is we'll hopefully be offering it to help your channels where you need it. to bridge to other chat services, or a sister channel on another network. they can be bridged to help expand your userbase 
Aug 23 19:21:50 <Metal_Man88> I ended up using Discord as a backup as well when things went down; wouldn't want to move my stuff there, but out of that list I mentioned, Discord at least was useful for that whole 'able to check on things if I'm not necessarily at the computer at the moment' thing as others mention.
Aug 23 19:21:51 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I've irc cloud too but don't want to pay for the constant uptime
Aug 23 19:22:10 <Medea> Hal_Emmerich exactly. IRC is enshittification-resistant 
Aug 23 19:22:25 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Irc will outcast everything
Aug 23 19:22:37 <SgtSarros> discord has, imo, bcom bloatware over time.
Aug 23 19:22:47 <JC> discord is run by morons, it could be decent and have it'splace, but they keep trying to be everything nobody wants. 
Aug 23 19:23:09 *	[webchat67] (webchat@SorceryNET.vu7bhucg.3rhlgx2l.mrm65al6.ip): webchat
Aug 23 19:23:09 *	[webchat67] #square 
Aug 23 19:23:09 *	[webchat67] fafnir.sorcery.net :SorceryNET IRC server
Aug 23 19:23:09 *	[webchat67] is using modes +x
Aug 23 19:23:09 *	[webchat67] config.sorcery.net 51.68.35.227 :is connected via the thelounge WebIRC gateway
Aug 23 19:23:09 *	[webchat67] is using a secure connection
Aug 23 19:23:09 *	[webchat67] idle 00:00:23, signon: Sat Aug 23 19:22:44
Aug 23 19:23:13 <Mavis> Yes!
Aug 23 19:23:15 <Dragoshi> no yeah it's definitely gotten some real garbage grafted onto it.
Aug 23 19:23:32 <Naomh> Gotta be the everything!
Aug 23 19:23:41 <Medea> I want a pony
Aug 23 19:23:49 <Metal_Man88> I've worked in the VC sphere... the demands of the investors will eventually drag it down to hell.
Aug 23 19:23:50 <Mavis> Line must go up, of course. /s
Aug 23 19:23:33 <JC> ok i want to talk about the network now and i need you guys to help me with some things here. 
Aug 23 19:24:02 <Medea> please go ahead JC 
Aug 23 19:24:08 <Hal_Emmerich> Right. Back to Sorcery, not why everything else sucks, haha
Aug 23 19:24:12 <JC> First off we're adding 5 new members of staff to help, thank you: Naomi Neo_Nemesis  Joe Hal_Emmerich and SgtSarros  for volunteering
Aug 23 19:24:32 *	Mavis rips up the carpet, hands it to JC.
Aug 23 19:24:37 *	Hal_Emmerich salutes
Aug 23 19:24:46 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> *waves*
Aug 23 19:24:48 *	Joe waves
Aug 23 19:24:54 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> Welcome 🙂
Aug 23 19:24:44 <JC> They're starting the onboarding process (soon) when i finish creating it.
Aug 23 19:25:04 <Medea> Bravo and brava
Aug 23 19:25:10 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Thank you it's an honor to be on boarded to this great networks staff
Aug 23 19:25:11 <Naomh> Congrats all of you, especially Joe and Naomi since I know you two. ;P
Aug 23 19:25:13 <SgtSarros> Volnteered? I was conscripted >.> 
Aug 23 19:25:15 <SgtSarros> xD
Aug 23 19:25:18 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Lol
Aug 23 19:25:20 <Naomi> thanks naomh
Aug 23 19:25:21 <Joe> lol thanks Naomh
Aug 23 19:25:12 <JC> SgtSarros, you're former staff you don't have a choice. we're back you're back.
Aug 23 19:25:31 <Malachai> congrats!
Aug 23 19:25:40 <Mavis> lol
Aug 23 19:25:40 <Tekkieman> Congrats.
Aug 23 19:25:44 <Naomh> JC ordered you to volunteer.
Aug 23 19:25:49 <Mavis> 'grats, y'all.
Aug 23 19:25:55 <Joe> I just hope not to mess anything up and be the cause of a crash >>
Aug 23 19:25:46 <JC> you won't have access to do that :P
Aug 23 19:26:12 <Mavis> lol
Aug 23 19:26:13 <Joe> phew
Aug 23 19:26:15 <SgtSarros> That old looney tunes. anyone who volenteers, please step foreward. *everyone else steps backwards*
Aug 23 19:26:21 <Mavis> hahaha
Aug 23 19:26:26 <Joe> xD 
Aug 23 19:26:41 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Lol
Aug 23 19:26:41 <Enker> . o O {Pretty much}
Aug 23 19:26:59 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Uh oh got a line up front in the store, gotta go help the cashier
Aug 23 19:27:16 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I'll read thru the logs for anything I missed
Aug 23 19:27:00 <JC> next I would like to invite any and all existing channel owners to contact me jc@sorcery.net if they would be interested in joining/forming a council of channel owners to help us, the staff, shape the future of the network and help decide what changes are needed to help the network, you are the lifeblood of the network your thoughts are important
Aug 23 19:27:58 <JC> we can't make everything a reality, but we've got ideas and we want more, to do what we can to make the network better, and to grow
Aug 23 19:28:33 *	Joe gets out the ink pot and quill
Aug 23 19:28:43 <Medea> at the very least it is good for channel owners to know a little about their neighbors
Aug 23 19:28:54 *	Enker nodsnodsnods at Medea
Aug 23 19:28:55 <Joe> note taking at the ready =p
Aug 23 19:28:57 <Mavis> Indeed.
Aug 23 19:29:18 <Joe> hey Ronja
Aug 23 19:29:10 <JC> yeah finding common ground and common wants/needs is going to be a big help in deciding what features are needed
Aug 23 19:29:59 <Ronja> joo
Aug 23 19:30:02 <JC> Next i'd like to talk about the website, the SorceryNet website has always been like a forgotten step child, truth is when we lost some of network founders we lost web devs and nobody ever wanted to take iton
Aug 23 19:30:42 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> JC I'm also working on a RPG bot that may be of some use here. It's a long way out but might be something users would enjoy for a eventual feature
Aug 23 19:30:36 <JC> NOW however, i'm determined to do some good with it, hence why it's been one of my main focal points while chaz fixed the network
Aug 23 19:30:55 <Naomh> >.>
Aug 23 19:30:58 <Medea> is that the idle rpg thing?
Aug 23 19:31:09 <Mavis> You squashed the fairy. :(
Aug 23 19:31:14 <Joe> welcome Farlance
Aug 23 19:31:18 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> No it won't be an idle rpg 😉
Aug 23 19:31:06 <JC> no not idlerpg, that's seperate and upand running and will also be updated
Aug 23 19:31:14 <JC> Yeah the fairy needed a replacement i'm sorry
Aug 23 19:31:38 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I think the new site is coming along nicely imo
Aug 23 19:31:39 <Farlance> Greetings
Aug 23 19:31:49 <Joe> dragons are cooler *sage nods* =p
Aug 23 19:31:38 <JC> it has fairy wings
Aug 23 19:31:57 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Agreed
Aug 23 19:31:43 <JC> it ate the fairy.
Aug 23 19:32:05 <Joe> the new site does look better then the old 
Aug 23 19:32:08 <Joe> hey lexi
Aug 23 19:32:11 <Naomh> The website actually has information on it now, that's a huge plus.
Aug 23 19:32:21 <Joe> ^
Aug 23 19:32:21 <Medea> lol
Aug 23 19:32:49 <Medea> just a FYI, I work with accessibility for a living, and I am impressed at how few flaws I have found on that site
Aug 23 19:32:37 <JC> well today i launched a new version of the website which has a much more robust backend to it, we're future proofing the site and the network, creating a way to onboard and train new staff and leave instructions. 
Aug 23 19:32:45 <JC> thank you Medea you have no idea how nice that is to hear lol
Aug 23 19:33:28 <Medea> we want everyone to access sorcery
Aug 23 19:33:34 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> This is the most organized network I've been staff on not gonna lie
Aug 23 19:33:39 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I'm impressed
Aug 23 19:33:36 <JC> while the website is not finished yet, it hit a stage i wanted to bring online in order for tonight's meeting because i want people to use it and to help their own channels. 
Aug 23 19:34:30 <JC> i've created a way to "submit" your channel to the website, where you can give a description, contact info, include the names of your OOC and other channels you use and in the description you can explain howto get started with your RP
Aug 23 19:34:49 <JC> these channels will be listed on the website, with a webchat link directly to the channels you name
Aug 23 19:35:21 <Medea> w00t
Aug 23 19:35:39 <Medea> unique URL to the webchat for a given channel?
Aug 23 19:35:25 <JC> from this we will also be sharing a channel of the week which we will advertise on the site and on our social media 
Aug 23 19:35:27 <JC> yeah
Aug 23 19:35:53 *	Medea lights a rocket
Aug 23 19:36:21 <Naomh> With the understanding that a good number of channels are more... adult-oriented?
Aug 23 19:36:07 <JC> due to some current issues with the uk's online safety bill, we will only highlight channels which are not marked 18+
Aug 23 19:36:38 <Naomh> Hah! Right when I asked. Fair enough.
Aug 23 19:36:38 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Thoughts on a network  #mIRC help channel?
Aug 23 19:36:23 <JC> 18+ channels will still be viewable on the site to everyone NOT from the uk
Aug 23 19:36:50 <Enker> Ponder, ponder
Aug 23 19:36:36 <JC> not now Neo_Nemesis :D
Aug 23 19:37:00 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Lol
Aug 23 19:37:18 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Just wanted to throw it out there before I have to disappear from the meeting
Aug 23 19:37:25 <Hal_Emmerich> Oh that's an impressive amount of foresight
Aug 23 19:37:10 <JC> it's fine, we'll circle back to it
Aug 23 19:37:23 <JC> https://sorcery.net/channels/submit.php
Aug 23 19:37:33 <JC> please feel free to start submitting your channels
Aug 23 19:38:46 <JC> hmm though i've had thoughts, if you submit your channel i might need to contact you in a few days to update the listing i'm going to add a prefered "landing" channel for the webchat so you funnel new users to whereyou want them tostart RP'ing from
Aug 23 19:38:57 <JC> if you run a game channel you can also submit it there
Aug 23 19:39:55 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Nice I'm loving this
Aug 23 19:40:13 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> Me too
Aug 23 19:40:09 <JC> One of the things we've been asked about a lot is a dicebot, we know it's needed, we're in the planning stages for that and along with the bridge system we'll be actively working on them next
Aug 23 19:40:45 <JC> listing of channels might not be working yet, i ran out of time, but submitting them works lol
Aug 23 19:40:56 <JC> i'll fix displaying them over the next day or two
Aug 23 19:42:09 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Ooh going old school with the dice bot
Aug 23 19:42:30 <JC> I would also like to mention and answer any questions on why we've started a patreon, https://www.patreon.com/SorceryNet the truth is with the bridges etc and a few other things we want to do, we coulduse a little help with keeping the lights on and expanding the services, but it's entirely up to you ifyou support or not. we don't expect it but every little would help with future improvements
Aug 23 19:43:53 <JC> Next year marks 30 years of SorceryNet - and we plan on getting as many changes in place before the middle of next year as possible including advertising the network more and putting focus on the channels on the network, helping to create guides for people to role play...
Aug 23 19:44:20 <JC> ... we will even take on hosting your rules for you ifyou can help create them, create guides for your channels and we'll put them with the channel listings for people to see
Aug 23 19:45:16 <SgtSarros> of note the 29 year anniversary gift is furniature. which is why all this new stuff is being built like IKEA.
Aug 23 19:44:58 <JC> we want to put the focus on the users and the channels, to empower you all with the tools to help your channels and worlds grow
Aug 23 19:45:23 <Metal_Man88> Back when the IRC server was dying I wanted to actually support it some but didn't have any means to, so it makes sense to me for the server to have one. Infrastructure is not free (even if, with the advancement of technology, some of it has gone down in price.)
Aug 23 19:45:54 <JC> Metal_Man88, you hit the nail on the head really, we want to future proof the network, we want it to celebrate 30 years next year and 30 more after that
Aug 23 19:46:14 <JC> if i'm still here in 31 years it's all gone wrong.
Aug 23 19:47:08 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Yes i agree it's nice to have methods of support and contact so things like that don't happen again
Aug 23 19:47:28 <Medea> I dunno. medical science is doing extraordinary things. I just hope there will be decent wifi in the care homes
Aug 23 19:47:14 <JC> i've missed things i wanted to talk about sooooo here we go. 
Aug 23 19:47:49 <JC> We've scraped the old and stuffy charter, we've replaced it with a promise of what the network stands for: https://sorcery.net/charter.php
Aug 23 19:48:09 <Naomh> Just become one with The Matrix.
Aug 23 19:48:01 <JC> We want SorceryNet to be inclusive, we have no place for hate here
Aug 23 19:49:02 <Medea> I like the way that is expressed. Short and simple, not getting bogged down.
Aug 23 19:49:27 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> The matrix has you lol
Aug 23 19:49:11 <JC> yeah exactly, we're focussed on the users not the staff and structure of the network
Aug 23 19:49:59 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Inclusiveness is a good thing to have. Everyone should have a place to feel welcome
Aug 23 19:49:57 <JC> previously the charter was all about processes and expectations of staff etc, it suited the old network, but we're not doing things that way any more
Aug 23 19:50:25 <JC> the network will be more fluid and kept updated not sitting on an ircd for 11+ years without proper updates
Aug 23 19:50:46 <JC> we want to try and be at the edge of what can be done with IRC and integrating it with the website and other systems to help you all
Aug 23 19:51:05 <Naomi> i haz oreos
Aug 23 19:51:11 <Dragoshi> nice
Aug 23 19:50:59 <JC> i haz not had dinner and i'm hungry
Aug 23 19:51:47 <Naomi> slides jc some oreos to tide him over till dinner
Aug 23 19:51:31 <JC> OH yeah now's a good time to tell the new staff this :D
Aug 23 19:52:01 <Naomh> I did the 'I'm an adult' thing and had ice cream for breakfast, so I very hungr right now.
Aug 23 19:52:09 <Mavis> lol
Aug 23 19:52:18 <Naomi> lol naomh
Aug 23 19:52:19 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> A little of irc servers have fallen to the wayside. I think with JCs plan it will bring Sorcery to new light and hopefully reintroduce IRC to the younger generations
Aug 23 19:52:20 <Medea> I am not well informed about the nitty gritty of IRC ops, but would it be possible to have some kind of meaningful "weather map", that would help people understand any issues that might pop up?
Aug 23 19:52:43 <Joe> speaking of food, I am going to dip out here to get me some food, I will be back later
Aug 23 19:52:48 <Hal_Emmerich> See you later Joe
Aug 23 19:52:55 <Mavis> Good idea, Medea.
Aug 23 19:52:55 <Medea> chew 32 times
Aug 23 19:52:38 <JC> Neo_Nemesis, Hal_Emmerich, Joe, Naomi, SgtSarros one of the new features of this latest website when i create your admin accounts - you will be able to update your staff "profile" which when you populate it and add your avatar/picture will auto-populate the staff page for users to see
Aug 23 19:53:00 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> A lot not a little. Stupid autocorrect
Aug 23 19:53:21 <Naomi> nice jc
Aug 23 19:53:06 <JC> Medea, we have a status page if thats what you mean? https://status.sorcery.net/status/uptime
Aug 23 19:53:40 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Nice JC
Aug 23 19:53:58 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> That's a neat personalized touch especially for users who want to connect with staff
Aug 23 19:54:13 <Naomh> Oh you actually have the server's location listed as well. Nice.
Aug 23 19:54:01 <JC> yeah
Aug 23 19:54:41 <Hal_Emmerich> Is this Uptime Kuma or something else?
Aug 23 19:54:48 <Miyuka> site lookin so fresh and so clean.  nice.
Aug 23 19:54:31 <JC> the website "network" section will be fleshed out next and for the 30th Anniversary of the network i will be attempting to create an actual history of SorceryNet 
Aug 23 19:54:34 <JC> yeah uptime kuma
Aug 23 19:54:55 <Apple_Master> yeah it's uptime kuma 
Aug 23 19:54:45 <JC> thank you Apple_Master <3 for it
Aug 23 19:55:05 <Hal_Emmerich> I need to add that to my homelab, it's nice
Aug 23 19:55:05 <Medea> I suppose that's what I mean. But maybe there are other details that might be represented. I don't know what they might be tho.
Aug 23 19:55:12 <Apple_Master> I think in future we would want to run more than one instance so we're checking statuses from other places
Aug 23 19:55:19 <Apple_Master> but it's good for now
Aug 23 19:55:05 <JC> Medea, yeah there will be, this is just a simple implimentation
Aug 23 19:55:38 <SgtSarros> A lot of networks are seeing numbers up this year compared to last. it's not the 10 years ago levels, but people are moving back to this place, kind of like how everyone thought MTV would end radio, we're not going anywhere. 
Aug 23 19:55:22 <JC> but that falls under nice to haves which is pushed back while we flesh out the main things
Aug 23 19:55:54 <SgtSarros> or as my dad put it "I'm not dead, i don't want to go in the cart. I think i'll go for a walk."
Aug 23 19:56:12 <SgtSarros> <3 monty python
Aug 23 19:56:23 <Naomh> That's because IRC just works, and I mean actually works, not the Bethesda sense.
Aug 23 19:56:25 <Naomi> jc. will wqe have a services section of website for people to browse wiht simple commands shown for regiing nicks, channels and adding ops? going thur the help files in irc is not very conducive at the moment for reading up on
Aug 23 19:56:19 <JC> amazingly our avg users is up in the last month, not ahuge amount but some
Aug 23 19:56:42 <Malachai> I have an issue I would like to bring up that has to do with registering nicks
Aug 23 19:56:55 <SgtSarros> i think we have one let me check
Aug 23 19:56:40 <JC> Naomi, yeah were expanding the help and getting started sections to include that
Aug 23 19:56:47 <JC> https://sorcery.net/getting-started.php
Aug 23 19:57:14 <SgtSarros> yep that one
Aug 23 19:57:04 <JC> that only covers nicks and joining
Aug 23 19:57:07 <JC> not creating channels
Aug 23 19:57:17 <JC> but i have a long list of things i want on the site :D
Aug 23 19:57:30 <JC> i fully want other ideas and suggestions tho
Aug 23 19:57:37 <JC> jc@sorcery.net for website feedback
Aug 23 19:58:10 <Naomi> i was thinking perhaps a section on services
Aug 23 19:58:25 <Naomi> since many things have changed with updates
Aug 23 19:58:19 <JC> yeah that's going to be there
Aug 23 19:58:41 <Medea> may I suggest a repo for the website. github or something, where we can have actionable feature requests 
Aug 23 19:59:10 <Ronald> Perhaps for now link to the documentation of the services provider?
Aug 23 19:59:14 <Malachai> nickserv for what ever reason, cannot send registration confirmation emails to hotmail/live/gmail accounts.  Like the emails just never arrive.  I've had success with protonmail and I've heard that private emails dont have this issue
Aug 23 19:59:44 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I've seen that with other networks too. I think it's those specific email providers
Aug 23 19:59:30 <JC> Malachai, that's been resolved and in an effort to make it easier forusers we've turned off requiring verified email for now
Aug 23 19:59:56 <Naomi> malachi. that is the email services themselves censoring the mail
Aug 23 20:00:04 <Medea> euw
Aug 23 20:00:14 *	Malachai nods
Aug 23 20:00:09 <JC> Naomi, yeah but alot of it falls on the networks, not sending email securely enough or verifying ownership etc dmarc etc
Aug 23 20:00:42 <Naomi> i have a gmail and they delete sorcery emails before reaching me. hence i created a proton acct for it
Aug 23 20:00:30 <JC> when we launched the new servers everything got re-done including how we handle email
Aug 23 20:01:21 <Naomh> Perhaps something for some good common practise things for bot use on Sorcery? We're in the process on rebuilding our website and that includes remaking the bot our channel had. And while the problems we had were few, poor Desdaemona did get bonked a few times, and if we're rebuilding a new bot, I want to try and avoid some potential issues from the get-go. Yanno?
Aug 23 20:01:30 <Malachai> well that resolves that then, thank you
Aug 23 20:01:46 <Hal_Emmerich> Hmm
Aug 23 20:01:31 <JC> Naomh, can i reach out to you about that in the coming days?
Aug 23 20:01:56 <Naomh> Certainly.
Aug 23 20:01:45 <JC> could you pm me an email address i can connect with you on
Aug 23 20:02:17 <Naomh> A new bot for us is still a while away, so there's no big rush, but it's in the plans.
Aug 23 20:02:20 <Hal_Emmerich> Might be worth looking into why the emails are doing that filtering.
Aug 23 20:02:21 <Medea> Desdaemona is a flipping cool name for a bot
Aug 23 20:02:46 <JC> SorceryNet has a policy of friendly boys welcome, but we will work with everyone to make sure bots aren't falling foul of any message limits etc and do what we can to help
Aug 23 20:03:16 <Hal_Emmerich> 'Friendly boys', I love it
Aug 23 20:03:21 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Lol
Aug 23 20:03:05 <JC> friendly bots*
Aug 23 20:03:08 <JC> uch
Aug 23 20:03:27 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Good Ole boys
Aug 23 20:03:09 <JC> lol
Aug 23 20:04:13 <Ronald> But what if I am still friendly, but no longer a boy but a man nowadays?
Aug 23 20:04:15 <Dragoshi> as friendly as they are fluffy. Or some silliness like that
Aug 23 20:04:18 <Metal_Man88> I use my own IRC client to run my scripts (and they are pretty conservative/slow, so they don't run afoul of anything), but therefore it might be a useful thing for channel owners to have the ability to send certain messages through a proxy like how you have that Discord one. It would be something like having Gameserv or something else join a channel and then note something like <Gameserv> Aug 23 20:04:19 <Metal_Man88> [GM] (((((( Battle Started ))))))  ... not something strictly necessary, but something I thought of
Aug 23 20:05:06 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> That's a neat idea, that's something I've got on my idea list for my rpg bot is a system like that
Aug 23 20:05:06 <Hal_Emmerich> Oh I like that Metal. I may have to borrow that
Aug 23 20:05:05 <JC> yeah, that's something in my mind Metal_Man88 but i'm not sure if we can do it unless we were hosting the bots, but we might be able to exempt nicks from certain limits or hosts etc
Aug 23 20:05:39 <Hal_Emmerich> (the graphic, not the idea)
Aug 23 20:05:43 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I need to finish the duck hunt update so I can work more on the rpg
Aug 23 20:05:58 <Metal_Man88> Given I borrowed the graphic from GM_Link, it certainly is fair use at this point
Aug 23 20:06:15 <JC> brb i need to check my notes for tonight
Aug 23 20:06:20 <JC> and grab a snack
Aug 23 20:08:46 <Hal_Emmerich> Admittedly, one thing we really should work (if it hasn't already) is the disaster recovery plan and eliminating single points of failure. I'm not suggesting as new staff we should immediately be handed the keys to the kingdom, but ideally if there's an outage, there should be some recovery path that we can take that isn't 'Let's hope JC and Chaz sees this'. Plus it'll be peace of mind for 
Aug 23 20:08:46 <Hal_Emmerich> you to know that you don't have to respond to every fire
Aug 23 20:09:16 <Medea> that does seem wise
Aug 23 20:09:08 <JC> Hal_Emmerich, We already have something in place, once you guys are on boarded as staff it'll be shared
Aug 23 20:09:41 <Hal_Emmerich> Sounds great!
Aug 23 20:09:53 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Cool
Aug 23 20:10:12 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> *starts to get worried at work* both delivery trucks are late.... oh dear
Aug 23 20:11:06 <Metal_Man88> Also it's not a question but also just glad to see the latest IRCV3 stuff with the new IRCd. Funny as it is to see 'typing. . .' appearing in my mIRC title and going "Wait... this is possible?" I figure keeping the IRCd up to date like this will help make it smoother for those who are used to having such features on other types of services.
Aug 23 20:11:08 <JC> haha yeah exactly
Aug 23 20:11:22 <JC> We want to enable and empower users and channel
Aug 23 20:11:46 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Yes up to date stuff is awesome
Aug 23 20:11:58 <Miyuka> I gota head off for now but plenty of my folk are in here and can smarten me up on what's going on.  Thanks JC and all the Sorcery staff and everyone that's helped all these yers.
Aug 23 20:12:00 <Medea> I just wish the IRC clients were keeping up
Aug 23 20:12:11 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> It's all docced Hal because previously it was me
Aug 23 20:12:19 <Mavis> Bye Yuka~
Aug 23 20:12:21 *	Naomh salutes de Yuka.
Aug 23 20:12:23 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> Now JC and staff have access to the wiki of docs etc
Aug 23 20:12:29 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> Bye ! Thanks for coming 🙂
Aug 23 20:12:38 <Discordbot> [discord] <chaz> Source is in GitHub etc
Aug 23 20:12:42 <Mavis> Yeah Medea, it'd be nice.
Aug 23 20:13:57 <JC> OH that's the next thing i need to talk about
Aug 23 20:14:53 <JC> The Lounge, the webchat we use, it has a "permanent" feature, people will be able to create an account to access it and when they do as long asthe service is running their client will remain connected and they can view backlog and history, like connecting via ZNC or a bouncer
Aug 23 20:14:58 <JC> and it is device agnostic
Aug 23 20:15:12 <JC> we will be enabling that in the next week or so
Aug 23 20:15:52 <Naomh> Nice.
Aug 23 20:15:52 <Mavis> That is very cool.
Aug 23 20:15:57 <SgtSarros> device agnostic? it doesn't believe in the internet gods?
Aug 23 20:16:06 <Medea> that's very interesting, a good way to build communities
Aug 23 20:15:49 <JC> it's webchat it doesn't care 
Aug 23 20:16:08 <Dragoshi> Can't sday I blme it
Aug 23 20:16:09 <Apple_Master> that would be device atheistic
Aug 23 20:16:17 <SgtSarros> ah you'r right apple, my bad.
Aug 23 20:16:33 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> The Lounge is the best option now that mibbit is gone
Aug 23 20:16:36 <Apple_Master> agnostic is like, it believes in clients but hasnt found the right one
Aug 23 20:16:48 <Apple_Master> much like anyone still using mirc
Aug 23 20:16:52 <Apple_Master> >:)
Aug 23 20:16:54 <JC> you learned your hexchat op level colours yet Apple_Master ? :P
Aug 23 20:17:51 <JC> So yeah The Lounge will allow people to stay connected 24/7 unless wehave an issue and need to restart the service, that will be in place in the next 2 weeks or so
Aug 23 20:18:31 <Apple_Master> i'm all halloy now babyyy
Aug 23 20:18:39 <SgtSarros> i stil use mirc 6 >.> i liked it more thn 7.
Aug 23 20:18:37 <JC> We are thinking about offering channels the opportunity to create unique css themes for the webchat so users can select their communities theme to use
Aug 23 20:18:53 <JC> but that's a few weeks out from being looked at
Aug 23 20:19:25 <Mavis> Oh wow.
Aug 23 20:19:57 <JC> What i hope tonight is making clear, SorceryNet is about the users and the channels now, we want to do everything we can to help empower the communities who use our network
Aug 23 20:20:17 <Hal_Emmerich> Excuse you? I still use mIRC, haha
Aug 23 20:21:00 <Naomi> i have used mirc almost exclusively for 35 years
Aug 23 20:21:06 <Malachai> I still use mIRC as well, but I did at one point use pIRCh
Aug 23 20:21:25 <Metal_Man88> I've been keeping NoNameScript working on mIRC by hacking it to still function!
Aug 23 20:21:14 <JC> lol
Aug 23 20:21:24 <JC> wow nonamescript i kind of remember that
Aug 23 20:21:59 *	Mavis has used X-Chat/HexChat for most of her time on IRC.
Aug 23 20:21:51 <JC> i'm using hexchat at the moment
Aug 23 20:22:17 <Dragoshi> I'm also using Hexchat
Aug 23 20:22:22 <JC> Ok i've had a snack i'm almost hooman again. 
Aug 23 20:22:41 <Mavis> KvIRC for a bit of the time, but I started with a Mac client called Minerva.
Aug 23 20:22:45 *	Metal_Man88 ( NoNameScript 4.22 :: by greeny & mute )
Aug 23 20:22:47 <Naomh> I need to get back to using Pidgin. Finch, the terminal version, is nice but a little clunky and awkward to use >.>
Aug 23 20:22:55 <Metal_Man88> I removed the website links because they are dead and probably go to bad places now.
Aug 23 20:23:03 <Naomi> upcomng rival to hexchat and mirc. adiirc. it's based on mirc but wiht soem neat adjustable features
Aug 23 20:23:08 <Metal_Man88> And nobody can use it... you need to find a replacement dll
Aug 23 20:23:19 <Metal_Man88> (It will probably stop working once mIRC goes 64-bit)
Aug 23 20:23:39 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> I'm still on mIRC too. Love it lol @ hal
Aug 23 20:23:27 <JC> Next item! Official Channels
Aug 23 20:24:02 <Naomi> listens
Aug 23 20:24:13 <JC> We're adding some official channels #anime #cinemaclub #books #idlerpg #DuckHunt #trivia and we willbe taking over #music with the owners permission 
Aug 23 20:24:44 <JC> everyone welcome, they're barren at the moment but we're going to bridge them to the discord server and i'll be adding some sort of bots to them for searching/discussion aids
Aug 23 20:25:02 <JC> duckhunt, idlerpg and trivia are game channels :p
Aug 23 20:25:19 <JC> we have a partially updated version of idlerpg running: https://sorcery.net/idlerpg/
Aug 23 20:25:32 <JC> myself Apple_Master and TrueWolves are working on some massive improvements to the overall system
Aug 23 20:25:48 <JC> everyone is welcome in any ofthe channels, more people in trivia will keep Apple_Master happy :P
Aug 23 20:26:00 <JC> if you're a budding wannabe apple to Apple_Master then that's the place for you
Aug 23 20:26:22 <Apple_Master> i crave competition
Aug 23 20:26:25 <Mavis> lol\
Aug 23 20:26:36 <Apple_Master> you must prove yourself to me before i will consider mentoring my own apple
Aug 23 20:27:27 <JC> Next i want to talk about dead/unowned but occupied channels - if you see a channel like this and you want it then come and talk to us about it, if there are multiple people in the channel we need to see a consensus from those still present (assuming they're active) on who the new owner should be before we'll grant op/transfer
Aug 23 20:28:05 <JC> if you find a channel that is empty but owned by former staff (all former staff nicks are set to noexpire so nobody can impersonate them) come and talk to us here we'll sort that out for you and transfer ownerships when needed 
Aug 23 20:28:20 <JC> or we'll transfer to other staff and update op lists accordingly to make it active again
Aug 23 20:28:49 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Yes need more players in trivia for sure
Aug 23 20:29:16 <JC> sorry should also mention Enker with IdleRPG updates, sorry Enker !
Aug 23 20:29:51 <Apple_Master> Also if you're not staff and you're here and you let channels lapse that are the entire reason I was on sorcery to begin with, you suck
Aug 23 20:30:00 <JC> Apple_Master, let it go :P 
Aug 23 20:30:24 -ChanServ-	Channel #bs12 isn't registered.
Aug 23 20:30:30 <Enker> Eh? I mean, that's TrueWolves's deal @_@
Aug 23 20:30:38 <Apple_Master> it's fine no one is here anyway i checked
Aug 23 20:30:23 <JC> lol
Aug 23 20:30:44 <Enker> . o O {...and also Apple}
Aug 23 20:30:48 <Naomh> BS12 be gone?
Aug 23 20:30:49 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Oh one delivery truck showed up I'll pop in later guys. Thanks for the meeting JC looking forward to interacting with all of you in the future. Feel free to pm me on irc.
Aug 23 20:30:36 <JC> yeah Naomh 
Aug 23 20:30:55 *	Enker has just been hanging out in the ooc
Aug 23 20:31:04 *	[Naomh] (Naomh@SorceryNET:vkojgdgj:4e2tvtkm:d6yj2vix:ip): Naomh
Aug 23 20:31:04 *	[Naomh] #square #Haac_Draar ~@#RayNao @#tli-dev @#TLI-Ops @#Lonely_Inn_ooc 
Aug 23 20:31:04 *	[Naomh] muninn.sorcery.net :SorceryNET IRC server
Aug 23 20:31:04 *	[Naomh] is using modes +rx
Aug 23 20:31:04 *	[Naomh] is logged in as Naomh
Aug 23 20:31:04 *	[Naomh] is a registered nick
Aug 23 20:31:04 *	[Naomh] idle 00:00:17, signon: Sat Aug 23 18:35:25
Aug 23 20:31:07 <Apple_Master> oh
Aug 23 20:31:08 <Apple_Master> awks
Aug 23 20:30:53 <JC> lmao
Aug 23 20:31:18 <Naomh> Unfortunate but not too surprising.
Aug 23 20:31:23 <JC> OK, next i want to ask if there's anything any of you expected to hear about and haven't, have i missed anything obvious??
Aug 23 20:32:36 <Naomh> I can't think of anything, other than what I've already asked.
Aug 23 20:32:39 <Hal_Emmerich> There is one thing.
Aug 23 20:33:12 <Hal_Emmerich> The one thing on my mind is thank you to you guys for coming back from the dead to set it right again. You could have just as easily said 'Y`know, we had a good run. Nearly 30 years is amazing for any service'. You knew the work involved to rebuild, and you've obviously put your heart into it.
Aug 23 20:33:22 <Hal_Emmerich> So thank you for coming back to it
Aug 23 20:34:06 <Hal_Emmerich> The network may not be massive, but it means a lot to the people who use it
Aug 23 20:34:29 <Enker> Home is home
Aug 23 20:34:33 <Hal_Emmerich> Exactly
Aug 23 20:35:20 <JC> Thank you Hal_Emmerich that meansa lot
Aug 23 20:36:37 <em> yeah I'm here for a very specific set of weirdos I don't find anywhere else
Aug 23 20:36:51 <Hal_Emmerich> It's hard to replace weirdo's. I have my own crew
Aug 23 20:37:04 <Hal_Emmerich> (And the amazon knockoffs just aren't the same)
Aug 23 20:37:45 <Ronald> JC: I have one. Did you or anybody else manage to get in contact with kobok?
Aug 23 20:38:32 <Metal_Man88> Noted everything on my mind here, then saw others note whatever I hadn't thought of. But I'm sure if something comes up now that we have this I can mention it here in the future.
Aug 23 20:38:57 <Ronald> I'm still a bit worried about my former operator quitting with a client error and being gone ever since. I'd just like to know he's okay.
Aug 23 20:39:50 <JC> no,not been able to 
Aug 23 20:40:21 <JC> look #Square is here and anyone is welcome in here anytime to ask questions or share ideas
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	kobok is kobok
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	           Account: kobok
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	        Account id: 17301105826044276358
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	    Last seen mask: kobok@kobok.kobok
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	    Last seen mask: kobok@208.67.16.33
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	Account registered: Mar 08 2004 19:52:27 GMT (21 years, 172 days, 23 hours, 48 minutes, 22 seconds
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	ago)
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	   Nick registered: Mar 08 2004 19:52:27 GMT (21 years, 172 days, 23 hours, 48 minutes, 22 seconds
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	ago)
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	         Last seen: Mar 28 2024 17:48:50 GMT (1 year, 148 days, 1 hour, 51 minutes, 59 seconds ago)
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	 Last quit message: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	     Email address: sagentir@yahoo.com
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	             VHost: kobok.kobok
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	           Options: Private, Auto-op, No expiry, Protection
Aug 23 20:40:49 -NickServ-	  Protection after: 1 minute
Aug 23 20:44:48 <Naomh> I, am going to go have some lunch. Thank you IRC folks for the work done and it's good to hear that Sorcery is being worked on for a while yet. 
Aug 23 20:44:49 <JC> thank you for coming Naomh ! 
Aug 23 20:44:59 <JC> and i'll reach out to you probably tomorrow to talk about the bot
Aug 23 20:45:20 <Naomi> thanks for coming naomh!
Aug 23 20:45:51 <Naomh> No problem, and as said no rush, bot is still in the planning phase right now.
Aug 23 20:46:37 <JC> Unless anyone has anything else right now, i'm going to call it here and get to work on processing the log and getting it made available for people
Aug 23 20:49:29 <Apple_Master> job's a goodun i reckon
Aug 23 20:49:34 <JC> agreed
Aug 23 20:50:05 <JC> Thank you everyone for joining, it really is appreciated to see so many people turn up and have something to say, or just listen in and take interest
Aug 23 20:53:37 *	Mavis salutes
Aug 23 20:53:42 <Metal_Man88> Yeah. Twas good, I'll note if anything comes up. I'll be on my way, but also just note thanks once again for keeping the lights on, and to the IRCops for doing the necessary work of keeping things running smoothly.
Aug 23 20:54:06 <JC> thanks Metal_Man88 <3 glad you could make it tonight
Aug 23 20:54:15 *	JC saltues back to Mavis 
Aug 23 20:55:32 <Medea> very positive information, and a lovely warm sense of community here. Thank you JC, the sorcery staff, and those being onboarded. And heartiest greetings to everyone else. x
Aug 23 20:55:52 <Mavis> Indeed so.
Aug 23 20:56:12 *	Enker nodsnodsnods!
Aug 23 20:56:32 <JC> Medea, thank you and i will be asking for you tocheck the site when i finish polishing it !
Aug 23 20:57:16 <Mavis> Oh, one thing I did notice.
Aug 23 20:57:24 <Medea> I'll email some notes.
Aug 23 20:57:11 <JC> please do
Aug 23 20:57:15 <JC> whats that Mavis ?
Aug 23 20:58:11 <Mavis> On the News portion of the site, "Nemesis" in Neo_Nemesis' nick isn't capitalized, or it wasn't when I saw it.
Aug 23 20:58:00 <JC> whoops
Aug 23 20:58:02 <JC> my bad
Aug 23 20:58:04 <JC> will sort it:D
Aug 23 20:59:11 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Lol
Aug 23 20:59:05 <JC> fixed
Aug 23 20:59:40 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> one delivery received still waiting on the big one
Aug 23 21:00:35 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Come shoot some ducks people let's see how high the scores can get. 😉 same with trivia let's see how high we can get scores
Aug 23 21:01:12 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Really glad to see people in here for this too, like JC. I had feared for awhile that sorcery was dead. Onto the future!
Aug 23 21:01:32 <Mavis> Hear hear!
Aug 23 21:02:33 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Also in duckhunt for those who may appreciate you don't have to shoot ducks you can feed them too lol
Aug 23 21:02:57 <Ronald> Just to lure them for others to shoot them?
Aug 23 21:03:48 <JC> no once fed they despawn :P
Aug 23 21:04:12 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> No, you befriend them if they eat the bread which gains you points
Aug 23 21:03:58 <JC> so i can't then shoot them
Aug 23 21:04:01 <JC> try as i might
Aug 23 21:04:50 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> And if you gain 50+ duck friends a secret command is unlocked;)
Aug 23 21:04:57 <Ronald> That's even worse! Feeding them into non existence!
Aug 23 21:05:32 <Ronald> Then they end up as all my friends: imaginary.
Aug 23 21:05:50 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> They stick around you keep them as a friend and once you hit 50+ they can do something for you to other players 😉
Aug 23 21:06:10 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> *cough*pooponthem*cough*
Aug 23 21:06:22 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Sorry allergies >.>
Aug 23 21:08:21 <Ronald> Right, I'm off to bed. I'm not the young one I used to be who could stay up late ;)
Aug 23 21:10:01 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Lol it's midday for me, still got a while to go
Aug 23 21:10:07 <Discordbot> [discord] <neo.nemesis> Nite Ronald
Aug 23 21:10:47 <Naomi> nini ronald